F 1'-0 7-5
I ? '-,
I
• . ivr: Per ps if y u just . .,tarte to tal .. :i. little bit about y ursel +>.
•
•
--i you ::ne to 1 fSP a w:1.en ur f1, ilJ ca'Je he e a whe e they a. e ro ?
i1J: e ca11e e e i 1g24-1925.
l - i your family choose to .,nme to np 1o you thin.?
or a bette~ way of life.
Vf: hat sort of wor· id your father o? a~ he in farmi~~?
~J:· ev e were share cropper •
M: Di e co1tin e to ar 1ere or rhat he o?
J:
~ T:
My f' , ~ er a always been ~ buoiness ~a. · hen he a e here ~e establishei
up here on Pennsylrania Avenue. a little store. e live
, a i like a li · tle gro .. ery st r~? ,
ow you
y ,u. T
l0';a e
1
i to s., 01 ere in· P?
.
$()
s ,h nl ,a
It ,as in
~i e r e
at vhat t· ere-~ e .,a,'10li .1U _, i
but it was 'ton~, e corner.
0ha 1 in TSP. It sai that~ e first
McLean's ouse. iss .Tillie O'Powell was
urp' 1 - ,ras t e pri ipal. T ey move t e
o oo fr me o:-i w'.at is nowt e .,ath lie
Pen1syl-ania Avenue. Di~ you be i n to s~
C i 1 192 ?
J: es.
:I •
J •
=
~J =
,.., :r =
Do you re ember sn. e o t e teac er" here'? T'ney na'ile ·1r. lilli C> S 11 as
ant er pri ipal a.~ a 1r. John ~i pson.
I ir11 1
!1. o to "ch ol un1er illie Sall that I re"1e er but s·m s n, w
w s ro a ., tevi 11 e, I : ew hi ..
~ y 0u e~all wh s e o~ your ~.ache were?
, y a.Jo = o u !; • e rn Pi es
la () n 1·l P = est out err Pines
C 1ris tin, el.,on
-1-
-2-
Ka ... e il_. e , arle .J.. ac. e.,.... e pp_ ratle
3i p 0 W ..,.., OU Free 1 ras ls r . • - u ' ool .1 .. d y? y u re e. be T ... at t· .. s of ay t yo .J.
_e?
I ' ·- SU i V ,as ...
r li -l-0 e ly a -1- 0 V
0~ .L
. 1 ro11 ... e1 J01 J) l r a_r_y ... .
1: f' ..... e i 1.V lv'.'> a-1- ~11 wh~1 ,h) t m was be i1 i ?
r y ivi in eri . 1 atu ally if anyt 1i 0 was .:) i n
b t e l"1U i y wrml ~lways be int reste .
__ s . ls nti er 1 at y u ay ave ~ar t' e e f ~ -1- ..ley ? t, .
Yes t·e n a ilia I C 1' t e :-ill ·-1-l I.l e
as it a spec 1 0 w en t t 1e C arte --? I t it ·TaS
r Do e e ber ial t:') Ia.:, ive t ,:,t f t ?
~
I.I
t at • 1: er f e , .1...
J-'- J~ I.I 0 s W'"'r~ el ? 1 OU at er was
27 0 you i f' e i rl 1Y
J• o . Jr. If yo
a elt t ... rt
r 0
ur e
1: l)i a 1 t so ~_:_alizi n happen t' r u h t e • .f" l L. e e t c~ re es ? i that
to e i le r pe ple par-ti ipatin i t. i'1 :;)·3 in tie C ... unity· ?
• : ' t - i ter-so i·l activitie
1: b nri g t a t peri ;;, en it ha· the eparate
~e. fa.., -1- at oO et ing t at y were v
i w r~ .., _,_ vi as t e p li e 0 i e ?
..;J : Yes·. 1e t • .I. l we a a "e bl.1. ' ay r a t a· type
!- • ... ... 1
. Hines beca t e i st ayo 'l l t en .I..
r ? .Ja y u ... of w .J t se ti .ul
u a ... i t ?
J· r t .. e ·1e e 8.1. t e 0r:.:>aniz tion be ..,..8.use ey ·w re better • v:: iri - ur t e.r: .:,pe u ti e town iv~ tics th t y :u can e 11?
•
•
•
J.JJ:
,r:
I re :nber
y u
Jew r
foot pat
w
a y
e ue
10 1,
-)-
wouli go to the e,tings but I 0 ' t reme ber n t
before ut -t e poosible - asons why 1SP too
see to ,e that rea () t .e town
t ::ill in s t at you re all ed.
?
ras t p ,ay we went to ..,,....p and t 1at was a oot path.
o e ut ta 0u.1- w1e e the .1:ar er ' s ""Iar'cet iG ov.
~: twas t , ar route Y
in else.
·TSP an
t: ere
u
at
,as roun r1..1. re t e li t.1.le xillafy oa is just beyo1 t~e.'rid;e.
~at were~ .e of 1e stores t ~·we·, 1 atni in the t w1?
ere ras J ~row s go ery store.
s that •mar \!here 1r . ro way a
•J: Ti~ wau bet{een otep ens Jtreet a
i cscablis
• e .,hani •
ms t .... e are"' w "r"'e t e ro ,r iness nee re ?
T: It w ro in that a ea.
t?
1: oes it r!la e
was that t e
t t ~ 1 re
a
et y u t1at t1e r~iso
attrac.1.ed ri inals from
th~L JS~ too away t e .,.art r
t ~Jur out t'e sta~e an
0 0uble 1it·_ ~ho ti1 s a rrle""'S rl .. i lire
t ~t ?
') e its e..,,e ·ery reasonable. 1in s 11oul et out 0
ever ear tat ·SP was re f'erred to as an outlaw town ?
a.111.. Di you
1J: I never ear. tat tate.e t.
1: ere e pl, pset w e the c arter was re·ro e ?
I was ' t ere.
I ' t re. e ber uch abut it.
1: I tin y ur father was ne ~f the last ~ommissioners. Do you recall i
sa i~ anythin ?
1 J: I t i s. e oft e people were a little upset.
t e ti e + e epressLm . 1)') y u hin at at ay h.av_
<J.() wit the e rentual , ise () 11 p as 3eparate ?
1.ur.ing t e 1epressi0 ti.'"' ? Do you t 1i ·t
ects n pe ple here ?
'I! in :,S wcr prctt ti t . I re.e ber y u..,band w r i 0 f')r . f ty cents
a a .
J 1: y ur h sba o ? l,] at sort of wor'r ?
C : e i .J,. • an:.rv ;..l g 1e C ulcl fin<i at the ti e .
'; T: • 1:
.;., :
T
~. Lo
, .
1:
J :
• :., :
:.iJ:
..
i"'J:
T• J •
1.
~J:
•
s yrm ..
,... a .. e V
Di
t at
Almost ve y
() Y'J
I' no t ') s ..
e
+ e Co~ o .ial
o 1 you ai ly alk
v a
eop::.
l. ~i
a
e e?
e
r->
s
e
I
-4-
?
livi 1 e::- some ard in an a+ 1 , st ave
i
s
t.
'e ;.;) l =- ?
e u i ·1'."\ e _es io ..,-ere \a.) ,.o U 1i ·1: r
ize l, 't?
n t i 1
• Le is's t
+ e e?
l
e i c..l .. are 1 · e
a+ t ere ha bee a
+ors?
ospital
e e +iere a y
e o ~e.
+ is ..:.>~ ol up l, right in t e area whe.e
P wa ,. lle Ji t .Li .e, t o.
calle 1 .,h t?
r+ l ~ t t e a ..L w. e t i~ s h ol. l,
as ..L a-: e :_e so ?
es.
0 I a u , i ?
w re na ~ f) .
I + + a bi l- " l,
t
C er 1 .. t
... e e I e
a oO ' at .:.e e e so
oul t ·1y till b
I a. e
re ie r a r !:'It e di ?
T e v r ere :{ t;; w, "a e t .J.. i
f p 0 e.:ty i ~ q, t lo ati 1. Dr> .f0U
\l e t· at a ea ,11ere t - s ool was
here? n· a. he ~av a a ily?
..
u ?
I ear tat
-t a+ a ·l P ..
ime ..
e e wa~ a per~on, Be
f s~i that it~
are ..
re ,,all
lo.., e ..
•
•
•
-5-
C I ever ar t. I ') y b J..
V .e pe0 - - - ') .v
. ,/·~ inv t i ~OH . T a'! eff ::ct :e p i P.
1[ l' .;;, t?
y i li '"e 1, 1a e i ':l ,,()\f
·t )or JO ')f r v, ..l- C peo_ 1 ()i 1 e i t'1 c,.,rl ~ ay ..,! ..
UN. l ..l- I) Y,:' _e T e r i 0 el w ... ey ,,')r .., " .
t .:iilics n ca
0 l er be bi. i eren---e in \ 1at p was li. e bet Pe t 1· nte eas0n
a SU _r ti e w e ·t was no t -:ouri st se son?
C 1': I 0 t t re all.
0 e ne :-:ie -ti') e t at S'J e ') +-, ~ _hil "en t ou-: ') f ... 1 t t...,') a 1 t., •
ca y or people. JOU re all t' t?
1.1,J : Yes. 'Tl t 1:iappe eri. o.e t e ,'1. to 1 elp SU port t eir a;i·lies.
1 lo l. 0 t .. e 0pl "::B.~, ere 1er ro '""c0tl""
,, ') y0u ,all t -t?
~ J: r S0 () ty. M .:.:>e ,.,')r i e as rerville was a ;.:;,L"te_ 0
t Cai . He 1as one of t 1e 1 er J!li isters that were ere.
1: D C" r;.;,. s ervllle live e_e i C'.'P?
~J. s e i.., t t Pi e urst i:ro e.
J1: D you recall t torna o o 192 that tore up t1e Jhurc?
•J: e were e_e an it co pletely 1 v led the Freewill aptist C urc~. T ""t
1:
vas a ter 1921.
Did your
Pennsylv
ves. le
T t;y le t
ily il
ia ve ue.
a ouse here?
fore y0 t ere
You saint
0 a lo
ere t ere quite a u~b r years.
ere i 1g?a or 1J?9, ann they 0vc
t you fir , t 1 i ve
ti e?
')
built a .ome t er.
Ft. Bra.;>
~: TI helpc., it t e rk o t1 hou~e t1at t e, built?
J:
:.I •
t i 0 Ar t rm ev. c Ar scr0 ~·
'1U '" 0W W ~C t e p 0pervy b 0 Cy ur a~i}y?
e w s a real estate pers n.
e et re ':la.ny er eo.l w o ~a~ r ,"!l re~ te rille tha · ro rec r .
. 0 f 0 f'
'r v ere a y
,:, ,rou re e
yboif.y Le •
o in
othe
r a~ion tat you would lie to a
fa iliev ta w r · i t e area?
?
iJ: Te rin:ley w e 1·vin t.e ~0rner wen we e. Te were t e ·r·t
-:, . .:-a il -: l t I :e er b,i t~ .
,r. I t _e e ily livi l ? V • ~ a i "'e' ~ a y a R. bi S') She li -es t,1e C r er 0f . ar i Cl ...:J .
1: D J0 ~e o~ 1ize a y 0 .J.. 0 t vO .a • .!.. ?
V l:lU L.CS,
:., : I e e_ ar,; r0wns, t a"D belL,
t ve a .rs,
Do y') J.. t OS na e ..... ? ,;:,, ·e e all t e 1 in.., so e wor'
I- at t ·-Y 'ave be n ta e ? l,
.u T: I -l- in all t _e r r e he ... "'e's Ti1 ar i I., . ,J. . .
e s a to i0 e als0.
, T: He \Ta ~ s , • 01 te C er.
"• !{ t i..:> b e a rl L w to live i ?
C : I J_ i r s .., .
•
•